Monday, April 18, 2005

Alpine iPod adapter

Got the iPod adapter for my car on Saturday with a new CD/MP3 deck. It works okay........ A pretty big learning curve because the Alpine deck interface has nowhere near the classy design of the iPod itself.

Ergo Car Audio in Edinboro was very helpful to me and did an excellent installation job.

Likes:
  • Charges the iPod while connected (eliminating an extra power cord)
  • Hides the iPod in the glove box (eliminating a visible audio cord)
  • Reads playlists, artists, albums from the iPod (no reorganization of files *required* - see dislikes)
  • Much better sound quality than a cassette adapter. (MUCH)
  • Updates the iTunes play count (Whoo-hoo! That was a big ? for me, and for those of you who know how anal I get with these things - that could have been a deal breaker...)

Dislikes:
  • No variable scroll speed. (Scroll wheel on the deck goes one... entry... at.... a... time...) This, frankly, sucks.
  • Interface is NOT intuitive. (Press 1 for playlists, 2 for artists, 3 for albums), find your selection, then press another button to drill down to the next level, repeat. If you're on a song and you want to switch to another artist's song, you have to hit "Display" and then 2 for Artists, scroll to find their name, hit the select button to drill down to albums, scroll through the albums, hit select. I don't know a better way to do this on a regular CD deck, so it doesn't bother me as much as the scroll speed.
  • Some overall limitations on number of entries on any given display. (Only affects me on my very large playlists when I shuffle - not all that common.)
My music is very tightly organized, so the album/artist search was no big deal really. I did have to tighten up my playlists - I think I'm going to use them to find my more popular music, because I can just have about 20 playlists, and go that way, rather than wading through hundreds of single-song artists to find Moby or U2.

If your iPod is not really cleanly organized, this unit could be either the catalyst you need to organize, or maybe just such a big hassle you end up burning mp3 CD's instead.

8 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jason,

I read your review of the Apline KCA-420i adapter, and was pleased to see that play count was working for you. I bough the same adapter with a new APline deck, and it seems that my playcount is not being recorded (or just part of the time). My focus on this is to replace my smart list looking for 1 star podcasts to remove to "played once" podcats to remove. The podcasts are in bookmarkable form. Are your play counts still working for you all the time? Are your podcasts bookmarkable?
Thanks.

11:27 AM

 
Blogger Jason said...

Hmmm... My iPod is a 3G (3rd Generation) model (in case that matters...) I don't really listen to podcasts in the car much - I should try. I'm still not having any problems with my play count updating (apart from the fact that it does have to run through the entire song... I kind of wish play count would update at about halfway, but that's probably a nightmare to configure!) If I try podcast playback with bookmarks, I'll see if it updates play count, but my suspicion is that it will... for me. Sorry - not much help.

5:36 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jason,

Thanks. I searched a bit after my last comment, and it seems that if you do not play the song/podcast all the way through to the very end, it will not show up in the playcount.

I will listen to a podcast all the way through on the commute tomorrow morning and report back.

Podcasts in the car are great alternative to the talk radio I have been listening to all these years!

8:03 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jason - issue resolved. I needed to listen all the way to the end in order for the song/podcast to be shown as "played" in the iTunes playcount.

2:18 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hello my name is dan, and that alpine adapter is great, i always hated cds in the car, and now i just use the ipod, but i do have a question, where can i find the ipod connection cord for it, i gots a hole in mine and i need another cord, but i cant find it anywhere, please help me

12:12 PM

 
Blogger Jason said...

I don't have a good suggestion unfortunately. Mine came with one and I had it installed by a professional. You might want to visit Alpine's web site to look for an authorized reseller near you - they may be able to order just a cable. But, I've never seen a standalone replacement cable anywhere. If anyone who visits this page knows of anywhere, feel free to post!

4:57 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi,
i want to buy an Alpine head unit like the CDA. Do you know if the playcount is recorded without the adapter? (i don't need the adapter if i buy an head unit able to ipod connection)

1:21 PM

 
Blogger Jason said...

I don't know for sure. I know that when I have my iPod plugged in to the adapter, the Alpine logo comes up on the iPod. In addition, at certain times, the iPod retains the spot where I was playing after I disconnect from my car, or vice-versa. (I could be on a playlist, and if I just hit play after docking in my car, it picks around where I left off.) This behavior tells me it's using the iPod's internal playback and logging the songs. If the head unit just treats the iPod like a dumb hard drive, then I'm sure you won't get play count.

If I had to guess, I'd say it would record play count. But, that's a guess.

9:24 AM

 

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